Thursday, October 18, 2007

Fool Time Job

Apparently, some of our friends on the extreme Left here in Town have been resorting to some rather nasty tactics in their desperation to get their candidates re-elected to the Supervisor's seat and the Town Board. I've gotten several reports from people who say that people have been calling them under the guise of doing a survey and asking who they were supporting for Supervisor. When the person being queried responds "Carl Chipman," the so-called "pollsters" launch into a diatribe against Carl, focusing on whether or not Carl will have the time to work full time as Supervisor.

This is a classic example of political operatives trying to frame the debate according to terms which are favorable to them. However, referring to the Supervisor's job as "full time" brings to the forefront a far more important question:

How competent can the current Supervisor be at her job when she needs to dedicate full time hours to performing her duties? No previous Supervisor has had to do so. The people of this Town were never asked if we wanted to pay a full time Supervisor. This is a Town of under 8,000 people. What on Earth could have changed in the job from 2003 to today that would turn the job from a part time, small town public service position to a full time, big money burden to the person currently holding the office? Our population didn't double in four short years. The job is no more difficult today than when the Supervisor's predecessor ran our Town.

The previous Supervisor kept our taxes down, with zero tax increases for several years. The current Supervisor inflates her salary immensely amidst out of control tax increases. The previous Supervisor had time to make sure that we all felt like neighbors (except for those who chose not to for political purposes). The current Supervisor takes the time out of her busy schedule to intentionally divide this community into "us" versus "them." The previous Supervisor knew almost everyone by name. The current Supervisor wants to force out everyone she is unfamiliar with and many whom she happens to know. The previous Supervisor didn't speak of Open Government but made sure that we all had our say. The current Supervisor believes in "Closed Open Government" and censors the Townspeople in public forums, forcing many of our elderly and even some disabled neighbors into the winter cold before suspending a Town meeting because she didn't like what we were saying.

By her actions, the current Supervisor has defined her job as full time, abusive, intrusive and dictatorial. What we need is someone who will refrain from defining the position according to his own ideas, someone who understands that the position of Supervisor belongs to the people of the Town of Rochester and wants us to define the office. What we need is someone who, rather than Supervising the Town, will be the Town's Supervisor, someone who will do the people's work rather than working over the people.

The Supervisor's challenger, Carl Chipman, has been endorsed and is supported by not only the Conservative and Republican Parties, but by a coalition made up of members of both those Parties and of Democrats, Independence Party members and those who have chosen not to join a political party. He has former officers of the Democratic Party in his corner. When the Democratic rank and file was denied the opportunity to choose between Supervisor Duke and Carl Chipman, over half of them walked out of the Democratic Caucus.

The support he is receiving transcends party lines and political philosophies. It is a sign that the people of this Town both trust his ability to run our Town as we would have him do and that we recognize the fact that our current Town Board is tearing this Town apart and doing so intentionally.

At a recent Public Hearing, we were told by the supporters of the extremists on our Town Board that we don't need to take our Town back, we need to take our Town forward. Very clever, but what do you do when the ship you are taking forward is headed for the rocks? Do you refuse to admit that the course on which you embarked is a course towards disaster? Or do you accept your responsibility for the catastrophic path you have taken, stop and find another way?

There is no choice, we need to take our Town back and there is only one way to do so. This Town needs Carl Chipman as our Supervisor and his running mates, Tavi Cilenti and Manuela Mihailescu, on the Town Board. We need to turn to a sane, sensible course and become rural, neighborly, friendly once again.

The question is not one of how many hours the Supervisor spends in Town Hall, it is whether we want divisiveness and dictatorial disdain or unifying public service.

You decide.

23 comments:

~ alysse ~ said...

As usual, your thoughts convey what needs to said, & what needs to be heard. I applaud you & thank you for putting down on paper what many Rochester citizens think.
~ Alysse Ricks ~

Anonymous said...

WHY NOT JUST LET THE BEST WOMAN WIN...
....I AM ASHAMED TO SAY I AM A REPUBLICIAN IN THIS TOWN..

I AM VOTING D E M O C R A T.....

~ alysse ~ said...

the best woman? surely you jest.
~alysse~

~ alysse ~ said...

again: ANONYMOUS.
what are you AFRAID of by not stating your name? if you believe in something, then STAND up for it, otherwise, who will ever take you seriously? how pathetic that you have to hide behind ANONYMOUS.
~alysse~

Anonymous said...

Yes, this is anonymous because in all my many years I have never seen such nastiness in this town. This town is being destroyed not by a new zoning plan but by the words and deeds of a small, angry group of bitter miscreants. Between their constant online bullying, the continual barrage of lies and words that inspire the breaking of laws these few malcontents; Bill Dukas, Imre Beke Jr. and a handful of others are destroying our town. I am another Republican who is ashamed to have my parties name mixed up with these idiots. I am voting Democratic just to protest against these hoodlums.

~ alysse ~ said...

again, you choose to hide behind ANONYMOUS. are you afraid to truly stand up for what you write & sign your name, or are you just too weak to do so?
who's going to take anything you write seriously when obviously do not. if you truly believe in what you write, you would not hide behind ANONYMOUS.
~alysse~

Imre Beke, Jr. said...

Just two brief comments in response:

1. Notice that the Anonymous poster(s) had not a single thing to say to refute what I have written. They cannot because it is the absolute, unadulterated truth. No wonder they feel they need to keep their names secret. They have nothing to say, so why attach their names to it?

2. On what basis does the poster ascribe the atmosphere in our Town to a "small, angry group of bitter miscreants"? The vast majority of Conservatives and Republicans are vehemently opposed to the thuggery masquerading as government in our Town. Add to that the numbers of Independence Party members and non-enrolled neighbors (many of whom I have spoken with personally) who agree with us as well as all the Democrats who are disgusted with what is being done in their names. This Town has had it up to the eyeballs with the disgusting behavior of our Town Government.

Simply put, the only ones being accused of taking away anyone's rights are the Supervisor and her Board. No one in the opposition has done anything to tread on anyone's freedoms. If nothing else, that should be more than sufficient to prove who is right and who is wrong.

Bitter? Look at the Anonymous postings on this blog. You tell me who is bitter.

As for myself, what you're reading here is righteous indignation at the direct attacks aimed at out civil rights.

dukas said...

Anonymous, on this site we use our real names, because none of us have anything to hide. We believe the sensibilities of the reader (perceiver) be treated with that respect. It’s Zali Win, the con artist, who encourages the propaganda of deceptive anonymity when he refers all to Kathy Kuthy’s trite anonymous site. Zali Win encourages subversion, he is not a Democrat, he’s a phony who usurped the local party to suit his real estate developer needs. He now desires to build and sell cluster developments. He will then skedaddle and leave the town to pick up the expenses of making sure those cluster developments have continuous water and waste upkeep. http://www.ulstercountydemocrats.com/values.htm Here is the link for values of the Democratic Party. Does Zali Win follow these values or does his selectively follow only the trendy one that fit his exploitive needs?
Anonymous, you don’t need to lie, by saying who you are, is putting your money where your mouth is, it adds value to the discussion. Your word and your name are the most fundament, substantial, things you own.
Republicans believe in free speech. Republicans are not stupid nor are they cowards. Anonymous,one would think you’d be embarrassed by your own deceit, but I know better. I know the mind of a pervert, you’d rather subvert and corrupt all to fit a your hypothetical sense of reality. Don’t you understand that’s destructive? I feel sorry for you , it’s probably cocaine that has destroyed any moral perceptions you once held. You must learn to compensate.

Anonymous said...

Oh please, this isn't about civil rights any more than you can legitimately compare yourself to the Founding Fathers, Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr. Next you will be saying you are the Messiah!! This is about a disgruntled group of wannabees who are incapable of living in an organized community and therefore try to get others to believe that any law and order in this town represents an assualt on "their rights". The truth is that the biggest loudmouths all live in houses that are falling down aroud them and none of them can keep a real job. i.e. Jon Dogar Marinesco, Bill Dukas and Imre Beke Jr. Try getting you own lives together and quit trying to shove your extremist points of view on the rest of this town. I am also a True Republican who is ashamed that this group calls itself Republican.

TOR2007 said...

If you care to visit the so called 'trite anonymous site' go to - http://tor2007.blogspot.com/ to see for yourself

dukas said...

Anonymous, a word to the wise.
Every time you open your mouth,
a Democrat somewhere cringes.
I have never seen nothing like it,
I’m confused; whom are you subverting?

~ alysse ~ said...

hmmmmm... isn't it funny that some of the words ANONYMOUS chooses to use sound just like some of the words that were said at a recent town board meeting by one of zali's puppets?

Imre Beke, Jr. said...

The Lib-Dems in this Town just cannot stand it when someone shows them that they are acting in EXACTLY the manner which would make their heroes and saints roll over in their graves.

The people of whom I spoke (King, Gandhi, Samuel Adams, Thoreau and Mandela) were all shining examples of the fact that obedience to an unjust law is nothing more than the acceptance of enslavement to the power elite. What they wanted most of all was for the people's freedoms to be respected, to be held in higher esteem than the law itself. To use them as an example which we should all follow is the highest compliment one can pay them.

I have the sneaking suspicion that what bothers these people is not that someone on the Right would invoke the example of Rev. King, Mandela or the Mahatma. It's that - given the truth of the comparison - that would put them on the side of people like P.W. Botha or George Wallace.

The fact is the ultra-Liberal ex-hippies in Town have become EXACTLY what they held in such disdain in the 60s. They are the wealthy class which has used its money to force its way into the political establishment in order to make this Town into their vision and their neighbors be damned. They don't want to see anyone who is of lesser means. They are "the man" and anyone who cannot accept their power to trample on our rights will be dealt with accordingly.

It makes no difference WHY a government abuses its power. All that matters is THAT it does so. What is happening in the Town of Rochester is an egregious violation of our civil rights. Our Constitution states that "No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." A kangaroo court-like series of public hearings are NOT due process.

Of course, we are told by the Lib-Dems that Duke and Company were elected and that their election justifies all their acts. One can only presume that they are consistent in that belief and accept the Patriot Act is being similarly justified by virtue of the Republican Majority in Congress at the time it was enacted.

As an aside, it is impossible to know whether or not you are telling the truth about being a Republican, given that you refuse to reveal your identity. In any case, it is a FACT that a far greater proportion of registered Democrats are fed up with the Duke circus than Republicans or Conservatives who support her.

Anonymous said...

Osama Bin Laden and even Charles Manson believe that they are somehow standing up for the righteousness of the little guy against 'the establishment'. Just because you have this believe and you can rouse others to follow doesn't make you right.

If this edition of Imre's IMAGINARY World didn't start off with a banner that reads "KEEPING ROCHESTER DIVIDED VOTE DEMOCRAT THEN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LIVE", perhaps you would have a tiny morsel of credibility. But alas, you will continue to believe, in typical demagogue style, that you are a freedom fighter and that the right to develop land without consideration of any laws; zoning, environmental, health and most of all taxation, etc. are your god giving right..... after all, that IS what this is all about, isn't that why you had your mother transfer the land that Kalaka Village was on into a real estate development company????

At least be honest with all these people who seem to think you are such a big shot. Tell them, this is about YOU developing your folks land. Then remind them that you couldn't afford to buy that land. On top of everything else, this is about you getting something for nothing. Go ahead, be honest..... now spin it into your big freedom fighting song and dance.

~ alysse ~ said...

wow, ANONYMOUS, i just read your last post. i'm sad for you because you seem to be a very unhappy person. if you were happy, you wouldn't find it necessary to put others down to build yourself up. i guess you're right not to say who you are. you'd disappoint your mother, embarrass your family, & alienate your friends.
have a nice night.
~ alysse ~

Anonymous said...

who better to defend someone developing their parents land than alysse roth ricks... can any of you be honest about what this is really about?

Imre Beke, Jr. said...

OK, for the record (although it is none of anyone's business), no one is developing my parents' property to my knowledge. If they were, there would be nothing wrong with that and therefore, no one would have anything to hide. If you own it, you have a right to build on it. The Town does NOT own it and therefore should not have any say in how it is developed, unless you are doing physical harm to one or more of your neighbors. I'm not talking about metaphorical, fairy tale harm like blocking someone's "viewshed" (there's a bogus, made up word, if I've ever seen one).

The factors you brought up (environmental, etc.) were never instituted for the good of the community. They were put in place as a way of giving government more control over our lives, pure and simple. The currently debated Zoning Code is a perfect example of politicians wanting to give themselves more power in just such a manner.

It is typical, however, of the Socialists in our Town to launch attacks that are not only personal against those with whom they disagree, but personal against their families. Case in point, the recent letter to the Ulster County Press calling into question the right of a Town Councilman's wife to write letters because of who her husband is. This kind of tactic is not simply mudslinging or dirty politics. It is morally repugnant.

As an aside, why did you find it necessary to include Mrs. Ricks' maiden name when speaking of her? Are you trying to emphasize her religious background? Is there a reason why that is relevant to this conversation? Personally, I fail to see it. For a group of people who supposedly stand for tolerance, you sure have an awful lot of things you consider fair game when attacking others.

By the way, neither Bin Laden nor Manson had any sympathy for the "little guy". Learn your history, if you're going to try to use it to defend your position. Your ignorance is showing. Manson believed in subordinating your own will to that of Satan (whom he worshiped). Bin Laden has repeatedly attacked the ideals of individualism and democracy as "evil."

All of the above can be summed up in one single sentence: You are incapable of debating the issues, of refuting a single one of the statements I made. This Town Board has repeatedly acted in a manner which is repugnant to the majority of our neighbors and you cannot show otherwise because this statement is the truth.

Oh, and if you want to score points by attacking a "big shot," as you put it, you need to find someone else. I'm no big shot. I never claimed to be, nor do I want to be. As far as I'm concerned, small town politics is just one way in which we can serve one another, like the First Aid Squad or the Fire Dept. Only the First Aiders and Firefighters deserve a heck of a lot more respect than those of us involved in politics.

If Pam Duke and her cohorts recognized the fact that they were elected to serve rather than command, we wouldn't be in this mess today.

Keep attacking, if you wish. No one with any understanding of what is happening in our Town will be swayed by your vitriol. I, for one, am done responding to such trash. It's a waste of time to debate with people who don't even respect themselves enough to show some backbone and own up to their remarks.

~ alysse ~ said...

yes, it's true: i am alysse roth ricks. your point is?

dukas said...

The point left.

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